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    Private Investigator To Trace Fraudulent Builder,,,

    Hello folks!!!!
    I am looking for a private investigator who can trace a builder who has defrauded my family of a large amount of money. All we really have is his website, phone numbers and bank details. Unfortunately the PI business is also full of cowboys. Can anyone recommend a good investigator who can do this sort of work?

    #2
    You surely have address, invoices, VaT, estimates, emails, quotes, company name, name of this "fraudulent builder" etc etc etc etc...(If not why not..)

    Please confirm this was not a do-it-for-cash-cheaper, no paperwork scheme/scam
    I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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      #3
      I think it may be setup spam, expect a 'first time post' reply with a link to a PI firm.

      With his website, phone, & and bank details he shouldn't be that difficult to find.

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        #4
        This is a genuine request for help. I can send details and diary if required.
        Unfortunately I have been ripped off by a private investigator as well, who gave me useless, unverifiable information.
        I'm looking for someone who really can get me solid information, such as full legal name, DOB, address, and assets.

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          #5
          Only the courts, and law enforcement agencies, can obtain that information legally, Even then, as many landlords have found, even they can't get reliable information on assets.

          In any case, if this is alleged fraud, only the police an courts can determine that the transactions were fraudulent.

          Have you run whois against the website, assuming he has his own domain name. Unfortunately, a lot of traders breach the terms for domain and declare themselves as non-trading individuals, to avoid putting their address on the public record.

          Incidentally, if the web site doesn't give a real name and a geographic address, trading standards should be interested, as that is illegal. Unfortunately it is such a common illegality that using that as a pre-qualification test would rule out too many, otherwise, legitimate businesses.

          Neither the web hosting company, nor the bank, are going to reveal information without either a court order or a corrupt employee. They are likely to insist on a court order, even when the request comes from the police.

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            #6
            Fair enough, my apology,

            First stop would be companies house to check who is registered as directors of the company:
            https://www.gov.uk/government/organi...ompanies-house

            The next thing I'd try is putting his website domain into whois? and seeing if his registration details are accessible.
            https://www.whois.com/whois/

            All domains are registered, but you can't always get details for individuals, you should be able to for companies.
            Many people forget, or don't even know, that this information can be found.

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              #7
              I'm assuming that this is a sole trader, not a company.

              If it is a company, you can get the full name (although they don't verify this) and the year and month of birth. You can also get the grand total of the company assets, but not details. If it is a company, without police involvement, and a fraud conviction, it will be very difficult to access personal assets.

              If it is a company and any of the web site, quotations, and invoices do not have the company registration number, that is another job for trading standards.

              If it is a company, take out a free monitor on it at beta.companieshouse.gov.uk, so you know if they try to wind the company up.

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                #8
                Thank for your advice folk. Unfortunately I have tried most of the above, to no avail.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
                  You surely have address, invoices, VaT, estimates, emails, quotes, company name, name of this "fraudulent builder" etc etc etc etc...(If not why not..)

                  Please confirm this was not a do-it-for-cash-cheaper, no paperwork scheme/scam
                  A reply would be greatly appreciated.....
                  I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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                    #10
                    Sorry for my negligence theartfuldodger, I've just been handling so much information today. We have his website. The address on this is fraudulent, we know because a recorded delivery was sent back not known at this address. We have his bank account details and phone numbers. No invoices or VAT number. We paid all monies by bank transfer, so there's some kind of trail. That's pretty much it. We know what he looks like, and have a sneaky from the side photo we managed to take. We have lots of emails from him. We just have his first name, which could be a fraud too.
                    Unfortunately he completely conned my elderly father-in-law, and I did not get involved until later, after all the money was paid and the damage was mostly done.

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                      #11
                      What vehicle did he drive/ any chance the registration might have been caught on a camera? Have you spoken to Trading Standards and the police?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Odyssium View Post
                        The address on this is fraudulent, we know because a recorded delivery was sent back not known at this address.
                        So the address exists, and it's not unusual for certain types of people not to accept mail.
                        (Especially recorded/special delivery which might be legal documents or even a summons).

                        Have you taken a look at the address on Google Streetview?
                        If you are lucky you might find a builders van parked outside, or even a company sign if its a business premises.

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                          #13
                          I think I would be tempted to go to the address and park nearby and watch for the person - you may then get a car or van reg which would help when you speak to the police...
                          Unshackled by the chains of idle vanity, A modest manatee, that's me

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                            #14
                            The address is a prestigious office, that is used as an address by many companies. However our company is not listed on any of the various listings of companies at this address. Unfortunately we don't have a reg number - he always parked his car out of site. And the Police and Trading Standards don't seem interested, despite there clearly being an element of criminal deception in his behaviour.

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                              #15
                              Entrapment may be your only way forward. Get someone to get him out for a quote and see how much info you can get. I assume your intention would be to sue him through the civil courts which may or may not recover some of the money (most likely the latter unfortunately).
                              Unshackled by the chains of idle vanity, A modest manatee, that's me

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