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    Sat Dish

    This is a general question.

    I live in a maisonette, one flat upstairs one flat downtstairs. I am the upper flat, the downstairs flat want to bolt a satelite dish to the wall, I dont want a dish on the building wall.

    We are both leaseholders & and shared freeholders, do they need my permission?

    Many Thanks

    #2
    Yes, your permission to install anything on the building is required. Notify the other leaseholder that you do not give permission to install a Sat' Dish
    However, others may give you more info as to how to overcome the problems you may face if the other flat goes ahead without your permission.

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      #3
      Check leases but almost certainly the would need agreement of freeholder (a separate corporate body, not you, not downstairs).
      I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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        #4
        It would be unreasonable not to allow your neighbour to have access to services. However, as there are alternatives now to satellite dishes, it is arguably not unreasonable for you to refuse.

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          #5
          There is already an antenna on the roof, which they are using. The lease is not clear on this issue and I am dealing with renter's as the leaseholder/shared freeholder does not live there.

          There are a couple of reasons that I am against this as firstly the bricks are old and prone to crumbling when something is bolted on to the wall, plus I find these dishes to be completely unatractive especially when they become old looking.

          I shall see what transpires.

          Many Thanks

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            #6
            Originally posted by Trevor62 View Post
            The lease is not clear on this issue and I am dealing with renter's as the leaseholder/shared freeholder does not live there.
            1) You say "We are both leaseholders & and shared freeholders" therefore you have 50% in favour, and 50% declining the application. Therefore, at present, a disk cannot be errected.

            2) you should not be communication with a "renter", but the owner of the flat.

            But if circumstances dictate that the renter has asked you, and his landlord can't be bothered to discuas this with you, then write ( not email ) go the renter, and advise that no way will you allow a dish to be installed, nor for him or any agents of his to damage, via drilling holes in the freeholders walls to fit such a dish.
            Stating that you as a freeholder of the building, do not give permission to attach anything to your building.

            Don;t go into how many freeholders there are, just say above.
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              #7
              If wifi is available, you can suggest that the other leaseholder uses it instead of fitting a dish. Or you could grant conditional consent subject to any damage being made good by the leaseholder.

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                #8
                Arnt Sky slowly moving away from dishes to IP services ?. IMO its a waste of money at tis (late) stage to start installing dishes, everything can be got via internet at less cost, a simple NOW stick for example.
                Advice given is based on my experience representing myself as a leaseholder both in the County Court and at Leasehold Valuation Tribunals.

                I do not accept any liability to you in relation to the advice given.

                It is always recommended you seek further advice from a solicitor or legal expert.

                Always read your lease first, it is the legally binding contract between leaseholder and freeholder.

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                  #9
                  andydd's point is the point I was alluding too. Satellite dishes are no longer necessary. In this case, the original poster should write to the landlord/co-freeholder refusing the erection of the dish and separately write to the tenant re same (ccd to landlord). There are also planning rules in relation to satellite dishes on blocks.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ram View Post


                    1) You say "We are both leaseholders & and shared freeholders" therefore you have 50% in favour, and 50% declining the application. Therefore, at present, a disk cannot be errected.

                    2) you should not be communication with a "renter", but the owner of the flat.

                    But if circumstances dictate that the renter has asked you, and his landlord can't be bothered to discuas this with you, then write ( not email ) go the renter, and advise that no way will you allow a dish to be installed, nor for him or any agents of his to damage, via drilling holes in the freeholders walls to fit such a dish.
                    Stating that you as a freeholder of the building, do not give permission to attach anything to your building.

                    Don;t go into how many freeholders there are, just say above.
                    .

                    Im trying my best not to get on the wrong side of the renters, to be honest Im not to happy having them as downstairs neighbours, they are noisy, in everyway.

                    There is another issue that maybe the forum could advise me on: When the freeholder was living downstairs there was an issue with Ivy growing up the front of the building. It had started to reach my window and I had too trim it, I convince the freeholder to get rid of it. We both had also noticed that the Ivy had loosened some of the grouting when removed.

                    Anyway the Ivy has started to grow again and I have been wanting to kill it off but I am not sure of my rights regarding this. As I am also the freeholder do I have the right to remove this plant without permission, what should I do?

                    Many Thanks



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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Trevor62 View Post
                      the Ivy has started to grow again and I have been wanting to kill it off but I am not sure of my rights regarding this. As I am also the freeholder do I have the right to remove this plant without permission, what should I do?
                      2 leaseholders who are also joint freeholders.
                      As the ivy is potentionaly destroying the brick work and grouting, and suck all moistue out of bricks. then that is a maintenece issue and should be removed a.s.a.p. and the cost of same divided by 2 of you.

                      If the downstairs flat leaseholder does not want to pay his half then just remove the Ivy, pull up the roots ( which travel a long way under the soil, )
                      Job done. - you will be acting as a concerned freeholder, and doing a job that any freeholder should do or have done
                      He wont make you plant new Ivy, by the way.



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                        #12
                        brickwork has pointing not grouting ram. Actually your advice is wrong. Removing live ivy Will do damage to delicate brickwork. Better to cut through the stems low down so that the plant on the brickwork dessicates and remove it once it is brown and dead, it will no longer possess the same clinging ability, Then treat the roots with a herbicide.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by flyingfreehold View Post
                          brickwork has pointing not grouting ram. Actually your advice is wrong. Removing live ivy Will do damage to delicate brickwork.
                          I used the language Trevor62.used.
                          Of course, let the Ivy die for a few months before removal. Thanks for your comments.


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                            #14
                            I and the other freeholder cleared the Ivy last year, but it is starting to grow back it has not yet reached the brick work, now the renters are living there.
                            I was considering to poison it, ive read about this solution called Roseate 360, it is supposed to work, I did use some brand I bought in wilko's awhile ago but all it did was make the leave's turn white. I have a lot growing around my hedge and am always pulling out new shoots but if I leave it it will grow rapidly.

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