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    Originally posted by JK0 View Post
    I'm just imagining Kate spending £5k on floor nonsense to save getting a dirty carpet, and leaving in 5 years.

    Alternatively, why not spend £1k on a new carpet every year, or cheaper still buy one of these:
    Thanks for your input, I am glad my problem brings people joy.

    There is value for me to pay a premium in order to keep my floor stain free and avoid changing the carpet every year. Economically it might be equivalent but not great in term of hassle and sustainability. Also from what I have seen it would cost more than 1k to fit the carpet on 30m2.

    A vacuum is a good idea, i never thought of it. If you know one which removes oil stains, I d be grateful if you could share.


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        Originally posted by AndrewDod View Post
        a - A solid-surfaced floor can NEVER be "sound deadening" by definition (see the lease).
        b - The fact that you say you will wear slippers is irrelevant
        c - what terms are there in your lease about cross enforcement of lease terms between lessees. If there are any such terms, the FH cannot authorise such a breach of the lease without potential problems now or in the future

        As I said... fit a carpet ... or find another flat

        Fitting a solid floor over a carpet would not be a sound deadening covering.
        Hi Andrew -
        Regarding your point (c), I had a closer look at the lease and I think this is the relevant paragraph:

        That upon granting a lease of any other flat in the Building the Landlord will
        include in such lease covenants on the part of the Landlord the Management
        Company and the tenant thereof similar to those contained herein (mutatis
        mutandis) and that (if so required by the Tenant) the Landlord will enforce
        the covenants on the part of the tenant contained therein subject to the
        Tenant indemnifying the Landlord against all costs and expenses in
        respect of such enforcement and providing such security in respect thereof
        as the Landlord may reasonably require

        The language is obscure to me - English is not my mother tongue - is your interpretation of this paragraph that it would prohibit the FH from authorizing such a "breach of the lease"? (although I would argue that the lease does entertain the use of floor coverings other than carpets, so it should not be a "breach" per se.)

        Thank you, appreciate your advice.


          Originally posted by Kate_london View Post

          A vacuum is a good idea, i never thought of it. If you know one which removes oil stains, I d be grateful if you could share.
          The one I suggested will, but you have to tend to stains promptly. It's no good waiting weeks and then doing it.

          IIWY, get a nice new carpet, and keep it regularly shampoo'ed.
          To save them chiming in, JPKeates, Theartfullodger, Boletus, Mindthegap, Macromia, Holy Cow & Ted.E.Bear think the opposite of me on almost every subject.


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            Maybe it was the willy nilly that did it...

            It means that if any of the other lessees decides to sue you for breach of the lease the lessor (freeholder) will do so (provided their costs are covered). So they cannot willy nilly tell you that you can breach the lease (this is a breach because a solid floor is not sound deadening and can never be despite you doing lots of fancy engineering.

            I think you also need to bear in mind in all this how your flat and life become if other lessees decide they too can breach the lease (whether via changes to floor coverings or parking or running a brothel). You will be setting a precedent you may not like.

            Have you in all this even asked the other flat owners what they think.......???


              As an aside, in these days of fascistic bullying thugs I had to look up the origin of willy nilly. Seems that Shakespeare liked it in various forms, but others have recently been abused for quoting the Bard

              The Taming of the Shrew, 1596:
              Petruchio: [To Katharina]

              Thus in plain terms: your father hath consented
              That you shall be my wife; your dowry 'greed on;
              And, Will you, nill you, I will marry you.
              [that is, I will marry you, whether you like it or not.]


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