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    I've noticed the moderator has started to consolidate some threads of a similar subject.

    DO you think this is helpful for members, or is information more likely to get lost in the mix?
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Bel View Post
    I've noticed the moderator has started to consolidate some threads of a similar subject.

    DO you think this is helpful for members, or is information more likely to get lost in the mix?
    New members inevitably seem lost in trying to locate data in existing threads, so they tend to start a new one- not too helpful for the next new member seeking data! If they search using the LZ Search facility, it can scarcely help to find 9999 threads indexed under the same word!
    JEFFREY SHAW, solicitor [and Topic Expert], Nether Edge Law*
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bel View Post
      I've noticed the moderator has started to consolidate some threads of a similar subject.

      DO you think this is helpful for members, or is information more likely to get lost in the mix?
      I appreciate the attempt to be helpful, but I find the conflation has the opposite effect. You start reading someone's problem, only to discover it is old news from 2005 or something, then it is subsumed into several other people's related, but not identical, questions/posts, and the whole thing becomes really hard to engage with. Apart from anything else, it's impossible to advise or refer to 'OP' any more as there are several OPs by the time the 'ringer thread' has run its course for a while. If older posts with similar queries/info are useful, then I'm sure the new poster will be referred to them either by means of links, or by being advised to use the search facility. If I were a new poster, I would find it off-putting to have my query thrown into the 'spinner' along with everyone else's.

      In short, the combining of posts ends up being a bit of a dog's breakfast, it's often confusing and I wish the Mods wouldn't do it.
      'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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      • #4
        The problem is largely caused by members not searching existing threads to find the information needed. Usually, 'the answer is out there'!
        JEFFREY SHAW, solicitor [and Topic Expert], Nether Edge Law*
        1. Public advice is believed accurate, but I accept no legal responsibility except to direct-paying private clients.
        2. Telephone advice: see http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=34638.
        3. For paid advice about conveyancing/leaseholds/L&T, contact me* and become a private client.
        4. *- Contact info: click on my name (blue-highlight link).

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        • #5
          I don't think it's a huge 'problem' as such, although I agree that endless queries about mould can be a little tedious. But the forum is self-regulating in that members who ask questions which have been asked before, will generally be directed to use the search facility or given a link to a useful previous thread.

          My concern is that it's actually quite rare for new queries on a topic to be identical to previous ones - there is usually some slight variation somewhere along the line - and the new query gets mixed up with the old one. It makes it more complicated to answer them.

          What might be more useful is for someone to compile a list of the 10 most common queries on RLQ (mould, section 21 notices, section 8 notices, etc) and the most useful threads which address them - accessible by a quick link.
          'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jeffrey View Post
            The problem is largely caused by members not searching existing threads to find the information needed. Usually, 'the answer is out there'!
            But the problem is finding the jewels embedded in the clay. I often have a problem finding a thread I contributed to so that I can refer to it to save repeating myself. Indeed, one of the reasons I recently took a break from contributing to legal sites was that I was becoming jaded constantly repeating myself.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Lawcruncher View Post
              But the problem is finding the jewels embedded in the clay. I often have a problem finding a thread I contributed to so that I can refer to it to save repeating myself. Indeed, one of the reasons I recently took a break from contributing to legal sites was that I was becoming jaded constantly repeating myself.
              I find myself agreeing with LC here, (for a change). Maybe there should be some stickies dealing with generic problems, such as mould, causes of, etc. that visitors could view or be directed to. That would save some time and obviate the need to repeat ourselves ad nauseam.
              I offer no guarantee that anything I say is correct. wysiwyg

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jta View Post
                I find myself agreeing with LC here, (for a change).
                I do not think we disagree on what the law is - only what it should be!

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                • #9
                  I think the problem is for example that you can't search for S21 it's too short. You can't search for section 21 as that matches all occurrences of section and the 21 is too short to register.

                  I have taken to putting keywords in posts so I can find them again.

                  Perhaps the site needs to come up with a defined set of search keywords one for each common subject or part of a common subject, each keyword to be fairly unique and unusual, and then we all put the appropiate keyword(s) in our posts when replying. We can then advise the new OPs what keyword to search for. Overtime that will make it easier to bring up the threads for that particular keyword.

                  So if, for example, it's about the precautionary serving of S21s, I put in Damocles and then it's easy to search for those cases.

                  Keywords would have to be unique so for example:

                  KeyLandlordAccessRights
                  KeyMould
                  KeySection21
                  KeySection21Damocles
                  KeySection8
                  KeyTDS
                  KeyWhiteGoodsRepairs

                  These are pretty rubbish but it's to show the idea.

                  Lawcruncher you could help your jading by making up your own set now.

                  LawcruncherMold etc Then just use and search for your own and post the links for the new OPs. That's what I've been doing (not using lawcruncher obviosuly) and it works fine.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jta View Post
                    I find myself agreeing with LC here, (for a change). Maybe there should be some stickies dealing with generic problems, such as mould, causes of, etc. that visitors could view or be directed to. That would save some time and obviate the need to repeat ourselves ad nauseam.
                    Isn't that what FAQs are?
                    JEFFREY SHAW, solicitor [and Topic Expert], Nether Edge Law*
                    1. Public advice is believed accurate, but I accept no legal responsibility except to direct-paying private clients.
                    2. Telephone advice: see http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=34638.
                    3. For paid advice about conveyancing/leaseholds/L&T, contact me* and become a private client.
                    4. *- Contact info: click on my name (blue-highlight link).

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                    • #11
                      Not really. Stickies are used to keep a topic at the top of a forum dealing with a particular subject, just like in this one where there are a number of subjects that people can refer to.
                      I offer no guarantee that anything I say is correct. wysiwyg

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                      • #12
                        When LLzone started the FAQ, I thought 'O Good', but I think they are a disappointmant as they do not seem to cover frequently asked questions when I have looked. The whole thing really needs to be made more user friendly.
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                        • #13
                          Perhaps members should compile lists of additional FAQs (each in his/her specialist subject) and forward these to Editor for him to consider.
                          JEFFREY SHAW, solicitor [and Topic Expert], Nether Edge Law*
                          1. Public advice is believed accurate, but I accept no legal responsibility except to direct-paying private clients.
                          2. Telephone advice: see http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=34638.
                          3. For paid advice about conveyancing/leaseholds/L&T, contact me* and become a private client.
                          4. *- Contact info: click on my name (blue-highlight link).

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