Does LHA increase with PIP with 2 qualifying tenants under 35

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    Does LHA increase with PIP with 2 qualifying tenants under 35

    I have a tenant who is on UC and PIP and paying the LHA rent.He now wants to move his girlfriend in who is also on PIP, will the allowance for LHA increase? Both under 35, and I’d like to increase rent slightly if housing benefit allows.

    #2
    Yes, check lha rates here. https://lha-direct.voa.gov.uk/

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      #3
      Originally posted by regain View Post
      I have a tenant who is on UC and PIP and paying the LHA rent.He now wants to move his girlfriend in who is also on PIP.
      Have you asked the rather sensitive question ....... is he going to inform the ' benefits agency ' !!! A lot do not. Not saying this chap is a scallywag but a come across a number of individuals who fly under the '' radar ''.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Jon66 View Post
        Yes, check lha rates here. https://lha-direct.voa.gov.uk/
        Not according to this if theyre a couple

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          #5
          Originally posted by Hudson01 View Post

          Have you asked the rather sensitive question ....... is he going to inform the ' benefits agency ' !!! A lot do not. Not saying this chap is a scallywag but a come across a number of individuals who fly under the '' radar ''.
          inform them of what exactly?

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            #6
            Sadly some benefits recipients cheat the system by continuing to claim benefits when they've moved other people in (girlfriends, lodgers, whoever..) - when benefit would go down if they were honest about it. The honest recipient of the state's generosity informs relevant benefit agency of changes of circumstances - eg additional occupants if getting some housing benefit.

            However, benefit fiddling costs the country way way way less than does tax fiddling. But don;t make it right.

            I'd evict any tenant I found doing either.

            Artful: Wicked landlord in receipt of 6 benefits (old..)
            I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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              #7
              Originally posted by regain View Post
              inform them of what exactly?
              Benefits don't change because someone moves into a property with someone else.

              They would have to be added to the tenancy agreement (so they're liable for rent), and then tell the DWP (or switch to UC if nor already migrated) and then the original tenant's benefits will be reduced and the new tenant will be eligible (hopefully) for some additional benefit.

              However, if the incoming person already receives housing benefit of some kind (for example as a single person living alone), their benefit would probably be reduced. So there's an incentive for some people not to tell the benefits people the truth.

              The overall LHA benefit for a couple is less than two people's benefits as a single person each.

              PIP is not relevant as far as I know.
              When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
              Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                #8
                You need to also bear in mind PIP is assessed - do you need to find out if they are under a timed assessment or not (if it is timed it will only last until this point and re-assessed for the medical condition). The timed can be anything from 3 months to 2 years.

                Also you should ask if the property needs to be adapted, so that you are aware before you sign up the T, especially if you have just refurbished the place.

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                  #9
                  The LHA rate is same for couple and single person - it will be set at a one bed rate, as they are assumed to share. Unless either of them is deemed to need a separate bedroom due to their health needs (severely disabled etc) - and this will need to be proved.

                  For info, claimants on UC must immediately declare any changes in circumstances, including moving a partner in. As others have said it may reduce the amount the tenant (or GF) will receive for other benefits, including the non-housing element of UC. It's assumed a couple lives cheaper than two singles and any income the GF has will also be taken into account - a fair number of people on UC and/or PIP work so not unfeasible.

                  PIP is not intended to cover usual accomodation/living costs, but the additional costs of living with their disability. However in reality this is hard to separate. It's not means tested so no financial impact for just moving in with someone else, but GF will need to notify change of address. As Ash72 says, it is reassessed regularly and will go up or down (or be removed) if their health needs are deemed to have changed - even if their costs don't/can't.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
                    Sadly some benefits recipients cheat the system by continuing to claim benefits when they've moved other people in (girlfriends, lodgers, whoever..) - when benefit would go down if they were honest about it. The honest recipient of the state's generosity informs relevant benefit agency of changes of circumstances - eg additional occupants if getting some housing benefit.

                    However, benefit fiddling costs the country way way way less than does tax fiddling. But don;t make it right.

                    I'd evict any tenant I found doing either.

                    Artful: Wicked landlord in receipt of 6 benefits (old..)
                    Ok thanks, good to know

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