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    UC - asking very strange questions.

    One of my friends lives with me as my lodger.

    They are claiming UC - and have been given a very long lost of personal questions, such as

    Would i rent out the place if they weren't here?

    How do i know them?

    They're also asking my friend to prove that they pay rent and that they live here.

    They do, and we've sent them the lodging agreement and banking statements.

    Apparently that's not good enough, and we require official paperwork.....


    Does anyone have any advice on what they're up to here, because we both need the cash.

    I do not claim UC, just they do.


    #2
    They're concerned it's a contrived agreement.
    They want some evidence that you wouldn't house your friend for free (or mates rates) anyway and have invented the lodger arrangement simply to get some additional income between you.

    What are they asking for apart from the lodgers agreement and proof of rent paid, because there isn't really anything else required for a lodger?
    When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
    Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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      #3
      If i would rent out the room anyway.

      If they've ever stayed here before at any time for any reason.

      If there are any other rental agreements.

      there are about 25 questions, mostly relating to my financial status, not my friends.

      We're in no way related, never lived together before.

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        #4
        Pleased to hear the authorities are checking up. Obviously you are legit, but we all have a price to pay on questions like this
        I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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          #5
          They think you are 'partners' trying it on.

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            #6
            I'm married to someone else, my partner is on the mortgage too.

            I have no way to answer some of these questions, I cannot 'prove' there's an agreement, other than the agreement we made (which was dismissed as it wasn't on headed paper) and bank statements.

            I am not part of any letting agency, I didn't think you had to be with lodgers.

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              #7
              Get a public notary to take an assertion from eg local vicar or some other authority on the subject.

              And/or engage your councillor/MP
              Good luck


              I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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                #8
                Why would a Vicar know ?


                Why do they need to know how the rent is calculated, or how my financial situation would be impacted if the rent wasn't paid?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by HMElilot View Post
                  Why do they need to know how the rent is calculated, or how my financial situation would be impacted if the rent wasn't paid?
                  Because they're testing if the agreement is a sham, I suspect using standard questions.

                  People often purport to let a property to family members, but DWP consider that a sham if, for example, the rent wasn't paid and there's no chance that the tenant would be evicted or the money sued for.
                  That's not a real tenancy, it's just money moving in scheme to increase benefit payments.

                  Same with the landlord, if you don't really need the rent to be paid, why have you entered into the arrangement - is it simply to have a nice additional inflow of tax payers money?

                  Everyone involved might be on the up and up, but the DWP are used to dealing with people who are trying to take advantage.
                  When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                  Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                    #10
                    When I had lodgers I ended up with just one (male) lodger when I had to claim benefits. The council wanted assurance that we were not a couple. They came round and asked questions such as 'Do you cook a meal together?' and 'Do you do your washing in the same load?'. I can't remember all the questions.

                    It's good that they're checking up; so many people fiddle the system.

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