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    #16
    Originally posted by Jon66 View Post
    There is normally a 5 week wait for UC not six
    Nope!

    In your world a 5 week wait would mean that all calendar months are only 4 weeks long. That would be 28 days. So you need to do some basic maths. On the basis of a 4 week assessment period (1 month in your world), the claimant would receive 13 payments (28 x 13 = 364 days in the year). As there aren't 13 months, it means some months have 4 weeks, others 5!

    At the end of that 5 week month, there is another 7 days delay before the payment is made! The only month a person will receive a UC payment in the 5th week is February, in all other months (all eleven of them), it will be made during the course of the 6th benefit week.

    If you're an agent of any property, or a landlord and you don't know how to calculate rent (monthly or weekly), you're in the wrong game! There are many ways to calculate rent, and those also give differing figures, but its never ever based on 4 week months as they don;t exist. A rental expressed 4 weekly is interpreted in law as a weekly rent payment!

    4 week months? LOL!

    Different ways of calculating rent:

    Monthly to weekly:

    x 12 / 52 (more)

    x12 / 365 (or 366) x 7 (less)

    But only a fool would calculate a month as 4 weeks because:

    4 x 12 = 48 (How many moths in a year? 48 you say? SLOL ! so yo're missing 4 weeks, hence some months are more than 4 weeks long, and what comes after 4, yes 5 then the additional weeks delay makes 6:

    5 + 1 = 6 !

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      #17
      That UC and/or other benefits are paid in arrears is all very interesting but makes no difference to if rent is owed or not, or who owes rent. It's (almost always) the tenant who owes rent, and tenant claiming nothing owed as UC or HB is paid in arrears is talking twaddle..

      That an employed tenant is paid in arrears doesn't mean they don't owe if not paying in-full & on-time....

      I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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        #18
        Originally posted by flyingfreehold View Post
        So different in USA;
        Sounds dreadful? How do you sleep/make peace with yourself?

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          #19
          Its just a different set of assumptions. If people get into trouble there are inevitable discussions are typically the offer of a move to cheaper accommodation. Over there its more like a phone bill, if you don't pay, you have to go. The USA is a tough bag of nails. There is not the social system we have in UK. Maybe that's a factor in the huge economic powerhouse that it is; one cannot imagine the scale of wealth without spending time there. But there is also homelessness....

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            #20
            And 60 million people without access to basic health care.

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