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    Hi Everybody
    I have a 4 bed house rented by the room. I have just heard that one is an alcoholic (Shane) and caused another tenant David to up and leave due to his shenanigans.
    Apparently he invited his girlfriend over exposing the others to a possible Corona infection.

    The other 3 tenants did not appreciate this and there was a major row during which the culpret threatened to have David beaten up. David contacted the police about it without any consequences.
    This in addition to the usual falling into the bath and not being able to get out, being sick in the bathroom sink and not clearing up afterwards etc. His email tone to me can best be described as sometimes written by Jekyl and sometimes by Hyde. His rental payments are sporadic and now he has no work as he is a self employed taxi driver (God help us)

    His year's contract runs out at the end of August. What must I do to get rid of him? If this carries on I will have one non-paying alcoholic in an otherwise emptyhouse!!
    thanks
    Alice in Wonderland


    #2
    Sorry I forgot to mention he is on an AST by the room

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      #3
      You are going to struggle to do anything realistic right now.
      The court system has pretty much shut up shop and, even if you could find grounds to evict him, it wouldn't be practical.

      I'd have thought that the other tenants will sort it out between them and you might help by offering to release him from his fixed term.

      Going forward start with shorter AST fixed terms.
      When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
      Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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        #4
        Didn't his references refer to these issues?

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          #5
          In future I suggest you have one tenant for the whole house, who can take lodgers. Then they sort out their own problems.

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            #6
            Originally posted by JK0 View Post
            In future I suggest you have one tenant for the whole house, who can take lodgers. Then they sort out their own problems.
            That's a good idea, if you can find such a sucker! I've been in the situation of such a tenant myself. At one point I had four lodgers and was responsible for the whole rent. The landlord was fairly flexible. But on the whole it was a collosal ballsache, and I realized no amount of reduced rent would make it worthwhile. Never. Again!

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              #7
              Hi Everyone
              I must admit I do not demand references. I know that landlords lie to get rid of people or massage the truth somewhat.
              Having to suddenly fill 4 rooms after the nearby uni closed last September and all my students left at once was challenging, particularly as I live abroad and only had a few weeks to do it in. I sort of reckon with a bad egg here or there anyway. I have 12 tenants in 3 houses and mainly cater to divorced middle-aged to elderly men.

              Usually they are as good as gold. I don't believe the tenant was drinking before. I think he has fallen off the wagon recently.

              I have not yet decided what to do about him. He has paid the last rent using state money he has received (owes 500 still, though)

              A question please-- If I do decide to get rid of him, when must I tell him that I will not be renewing his contract i.e how much notice do I have to provide and what paperwork do I use. The contract is an AST for a room with shared communal areas and runs out mid September?
              I would be very grateful for any advice.

              I like the idea of letting the other 3 tenants sort it out . One is ex-military, one is built like a brick **** house and has a second job as a bouncer and the 3rd is hugely tall and very fit. The perpertrator is a scrawny man and as a cronic alchohlic not very strong or fit.

              I agree with you Hamiton it sounds a nightmare to have one tenant and 3 lodgers.

              thanksfor reading
              Happy Easter
              Alice from Wonderland

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                #8
                P.S I will be reviewing my stance on asking for references. When I only have one tenant to find at a
                time, it will be easier.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Alice in Wonderland View Post
                  P.S I will be reviewing my stance on asking for references. When I only have one tenant to find at a
                  time, it will be easier.
                  I think its not just the reference itself, but the whole process of credit checking, identity checking etc that can now easily be purchased from several companies quite cheaply.

                  Accepting that you might get a few 'bad eggs' in a single household is one thing, but that policy really doesn't work for HMOs as you're now discovering.

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                    #10
                    Hello DPT57
                    thankyou for answering. What I really meant was that very occasionally in the last 15 years I have had one bad egg in my basket of 12 tenants in 3 houses.
                    It is quite a nice town on the coast of Kent in a rather expensive area. So the tenants are usually just divorce ophans and quiet and clean.
                    Could you please tell me a company that I can use for these services, so as to avoid future incidents of this nature.
                    I don't mind waiting to find a good tenant if it is one room. If it is 4 rooms like last September that costs me big time.
                    thankyou
                    Alice

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Alice in Wonderland View Post
                      Could you please tell me a company that I can use for these services, so as to avoid future incidents of this nature.
                      Alice
                      I use Openrent for advertising and they have their own tenant referencing company, which I've used without a problem. You could also join NRLA and use their in-house referencing. They're all similarly priced I think. I pay £20 per reference.

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                        #12
                        Hi Everyone
                        on another post I wrote more about the reasons that I want this tenant to go but I still need crucial advice.

                        So please help if you can!

                        Just to update he is an alcoholic and aggressive when drunk. The other 3 tenants want him to go, because he is disturbing the household.
                        The tenant's 12 month Room AST ends in September and I do not wish to renew it. He is in arrears by 500 pounds and agreed to increase his rent by 50 a month to gradually cover that, which was okay with me before he started doing his nut when drunk and calling me C--t etc by email

                        When do I have to inform him (I believe it is 3 months in advance at present)
                        What forms do I need to send him? I know that I have to ensure that he receives them.
                        Do I need just cause (I have the unpleasant emails and statements from the other tenants)?
                        If he is not obliged to go at the end of his tenancy, then what is the point of having a contract at all?

                        I do not wish to serve him with this notification until the end of lockup, as I realise that the present situation does not bring out the best in people threatened with their jobs-particularly an alcoholic taxi driver!
                        Thanks for reading this and for answering.
                        Alice

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                          #13
                          HOW did he agree rent increase please? Verbal, email, new AST etc etc?

                          How to get rid,. S21 and/or s8, no change since 1997.

                          Serve S8 for arrears TODAY!

                          Please confirm you'll give no reference or only a full honest one, and will copy s8s to council so this cheat gets as little help (or none) as possible
                          I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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                            #14
                            You can serve notice in June to end in September (or when he owes two month's rent).
                            But your notice doesn't mean he has to leave and you would have to take him to court to actually evict him.
                            When I post, I am expressing an opinion - feel free to disagree, I have been wrong before.
                            Please don't act on my suggestions without checking with a grown-up (ideally some kind of expert).

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                              #15
                              Hi Artful dodger and jpkeates
                              thanks for your replies.
                              the rent increase of around 50 pounds to catch up on missed rent was a verbal agreement.
                              He has indeed been in receipt of some government funding and has kept up payments at the agreed sum for 3 months now. Last payment yesterday for May.
                              I didn't say he is a cheat although I suspect he might be driving children with over the limit alcohol in his blood in the morning school run.
                              He doesn't owe 2 months rent yet.

                              If I have no legal way of getting rid of him by withholding the next contract I might not bother. I can't conduct a court case in Kent from Austria.
                              I shall have to see how he behaves and if his consumption of booze reduces after he can continue his taxi driving -and what the other tenants say.
                              many thanks
                              Alice

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