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    I have a single room that's nearly big enough to be a double. It's an ex-council house with a built in floor to ceiling cupboard in the corner. If I knocked out this cupboard it would be big enough to be a double. I don't really want to knock out this very useful cupboard and replace it with another one that would be a flat-pack. Is this cupboard counted in the floor space calculation?

    Another room in the same house might just be big enough to count as an adult single. I've got to re-measure it but I think it's only just too small. If I let both rooms out as one double unit could that count as a double bedroom?

    #2
    Check size (110sq ft plus required for double) against info provided by Shelter here...
    http://england.shelter.org.uk/legal/...overcrowding#2

    Funny how many estate agents & letting agents seem ignorant of these room size requirements, in place since Housing Act 1985..
    I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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      #3
      You can't count the two together as one room. Each has to be of at least the required size. It sounds like its worth removing the built in cupboard if that will get you over the line though.

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        #4
        Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
        Check size (110sq ft plus required for double) against info provided by Shelter here...
        http://england.shelter.org.uk/legal/...overcrowding#2

        Funny how many estate agents & letting agents seem ignorant of these room size requirements, in place since Housing Act 1985..
        I know! My Mum is looking for a house and one of the rooms was only 6.5" x 6.5". Oh so tichy.

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          #5
          Originally posted by DPT57 View Post
          You can't count the two together as one room. Each has to be of at least the required size. It sounds like its worth removing the built in cupboard if that will get you over the line though.
          thanks for that but can you give some legal regs?

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            #6
            For statutory overcrowding, it is not how many people are actually in a room that matters, but the the total number of people that would be possible if all available rooms were at capacity, according to the standards. For that purpose, a living or dining room can be counted.

            There is another definition, that is used to prioritise council housing, and is the basis on which overcrowding statistics are produces, in which only bedrooms are counted. That has rules about sloping ceilings and, I think, about fitted furniture.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Berlingogirl View Post

              thanks for that but can you give some legal regs?
              See here: Section 3.3 says "communal space in other parts of the HMO cannot be used to compensate for rooms smaller than the prescribed minimum. "

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                #8
                Sorry, here: https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ng-authorities

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                  #9
                  Sorry. Missed this was the double occupation forum. Living rooms don't count, if they are shared.

                  If you need a licence, all bets are off, but otherwise, I would have thought that, if there was a single tenancy, you would not be legally overcrowded if they could sleep; in separate rooms, but chose not to.

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                    #10
                    I don't need a licence as I'm leaving one room unoccupied at the moment (that's one more homeless person added to the stats). I was advised that if I removed the door from the built in cupboard I could include it in the floor space. Crazy.

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                      #11
                      If you don't need a licence then I believe the minimum room sizes don't have to apply, unless the local authority has additional licensing and their own minimum.

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