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    Bathroom planning

    I want to produce some drawings for a bathroom re-furb - for tenant and 'workmen' digestion, including fittings and décor.

    Spent the morning searching (must be better things to do with life) and no luck yet. Any suggestions?

    Running ie10 or Chrome or Firefox on Win8.

    Yes, I know it would have been easier to get a ruler and pencil out! Failing that, an email to architecture-student son!

    #2
    The IKEA kitchen planner tool is quite good (once you get used to it!).

    They claim to have a downloadable planner for every area of the house including bathroom - it's not immediately obvious on their site, (google 'ikea bathroom planner') but I expect it's there somewhere!
    'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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      #3
      Also B&Q at diy.com

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        #4
        Thanks so far folks. Can't find the Ikea one and can't get B&Q to download the plug-in the software requires

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          #5
          Yeah, I had to go back to Internet Explorer to run a kitchen cad program.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Snorkerz View Post
            Thanks so far folks. Can't find the Ikea one and can't get B&Q to download the plug-in the software requires
            It's back to the graph paper then!

            Or the architecture student...he'll love it. Moving toilets and washbasins around on a plan? Much more fun than going out partying or playing on his Xbox!
            'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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              #7
              How about this one? http://www.ideal-standard.co.uk/3d-planner.html

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                #8
                It would be wrong of me to suggest you get B&Q round to do a quote & they give you lovely ideas, pictures & plan ...
                I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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                  #9
                  I'm a big fan of graph paper and cut out bits of paper to show baths etc.

                  Don't forget to start with the location of the soil pipe and water supply - key to most of what goes on in a bathroom.



                  Freedom at the point of zero............

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                    #10
                    In Newcastle they call soil stack pipes 'stinkies'.

                    Seems fitting!
                    'Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation fo the first link on one memorable day'. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Interlaken View Post
                      Don't forget to start with the location of the soil pipe and water supply.
                      Any idea how critical this is? It's an end terrace and the bathroom is on the corner. I want to move loo to opposite corner with soil pipe exiting though the end wall then going round the corner to where the current soil pipe enters the kitchen extension roof! Total distance about 13' with a 2' drop.

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                        #12
                        Well I would say 'very critical'. Ideally bathroom soil pipes need to go the shortest distance to the main pipe.

                        I have never seen one go around a corner outside a building (against building regs) so this will have to go under the floor within the building.

                        2'' fall is no where near enough over 13' - better take out a contract with Dynorod now!



                        Freedom at the point of zero............

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Interlaken View Post
                          2'' fall is no where near enough over 13' - better take out a contract with Dynorod now!
                          2 FEET! However, take your comment about not going round a corner. Would it be different if the pipe was 'roddable'? The waste pipe has to bend 90 degrees now to run flat to the wall after it leaves the wall (see below), just proposing an extra kink! I guess I had better dig out building regs.
                          loo.jpg
                          Now you see why I needed software to do this!
                          I don't know the level of knowledge / experience out there, but lets try another Q.

                          I can see on Part H that my maximum branch from the stack is 15m - I'm well within that - and the gradient must be at least 18mm per metre. There are references to radius but I am not really very clear on the meaning of that. Round corners doesn't seem impossible, but can someone put it into English for me? http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/upl..._AD_H_2010.pdf

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                            #14
                            get a decent plumber in and they will help sort it out. a lot has been said about the location of the soil pipe being critical, I don't necessarily agree, I have altered lots of bathrooms and its the location of the sewer connection that is critical (sorry for splitting hairs!) - even that can be altered subject to compliance with BR's - I think the other posters were working on the basis of cost and not design. ie its a LOT cheaper not to have to alter the stack or sewer connection, but sometimes on a design basis its actually worthwhile.

                            I am currently refurbing a bathroom, by removing the original stack and turning the branch connection 180 degrees, I have been able to resite the wc and basin onto a different wall and then was able to fit a p bath with opening shower screen. its one of the smallest bathroms I have done, but what a difference for £100 worth of new soil stack and less than a days work! it has also allowed me to consider putting an ensuite in the adjoining bedroom.

                            so, don't be scared of resiting the stack, sewer connection etc, it might give you much more design freedom, BUT it will be a more costly option

                            please, please do not fit a macerator unless it really is your only option and NEVER in a tenanted property


                            PS graph paper and wc, basin, bath, shower templates work for me !!!!

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by MisterB View Post
                              I am currently refurbing a bathroom, by removing the original stack and turning the branch connection 180 degrees, I have been able to resite the wc and basin onto a different wall and then was able to fit a p bath with opening shower screen. its one of the smallest bathroms I have done, but what a difference for £100 worth of new soil stack and less than a days work! it has also allowed me to consider putting an ensuite in the adjoining bedroom.
                              Pretty much what I am dealing with, 1930s workers end terrace.

                              I did end up drawing by hand and have sent to a couple of 'known' plumbers for pricing. I am 300 miles from the property so a site visit at this stage is impractical so I need to be as specific as possible if I am not going to leave too much to the plumbers discretion and then be disappointed.

                              Although they are LHA I have really nice tenants here so I want it to be 'nice'. Cost is important but it is all a matter of degrees.

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