Secure UPVC French Doors?

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    Secure UPVC French Doors?

    I just got a phone call telling me my tenant's flat was broken into via his lounge french doors.

    The agent says that the glass is not broken or removed. The thieves just 'popped' them open.

    Does anyone know how I can make them more secure?

    #2
    Euro locks, particularly the cheaper ones, are reputedly easy to break...
    http://www.highsecuritydoorlocks.co....s-release1.php
    (Mind you Bettison is the senior plod that many fair-minded people think should have resigned years ago over Hillsborough...)

    If there is no evidence of damage, how would one know that the tenant didn't just leave it unlocked??
    I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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      #3
      Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
      Euro locks, particularly the cheaper ones, are reputedly easy to break...
      http://www.highsecuritydoorlocks.co....s-release1.php
      (Mind you Bettison is the senior plod that many fair-minded people think should have resigned years ago over Hillsborough...)

      If there is no evidence of damage, how would one know that the tenant didn't just leave it unlocked??
      Thanks Artful. Yes I wondered that, or possibly they left the side carrying the strike plate unlocked. I am going over to have a look later.

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        #4
        Bumping a lock is pretty easy. One of the problems with uPVC products is the in simplicity of the actual lock that tend to be installed as standard. Another is that it's (by comparrison) dificult to add extra security.

        Anti-bump cylinders aren't that expensive and fitting one shouldn't be seen as admitting any liability. If the door lock was bumped then the tenant's insurance should still cover losses.
        There is always scope for misinterpretation.

        If my posts can be interpreted in two ways, one that makes you feel angry and one that doesn't, I meant the latter.

        Everyday is an opportunity to learn something new.

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          #5
          I just went over to see my tenants.

          The locks weren't bumped. The only 'damage' is that my tenant's wife says that the UPVC trim strip between the two french doors was pulled off, and her husband has now replaced it.

          This fits my theory that the secondary door wasn't locked at all.

          They still seem to keep the keys in the door, silly devils.

          My tenants have such a cavalier attitude to security, that I wonder if it would be reasonable to deduct repairs from their deposit when they have allowed a burglary to happen by not locking up properly.

          Have any other landlords done that?

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            #6
            I've a similar current situation. Tenant took delivery of electrical item, left in packaging in full view. Non-standard (oversize) £500 front door destroyed during break-in. £10k excess because of fire (arson) a couple of years ago. I would be tempted but deposit won't cover.

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              #7
              JKO - yes have done that. At Christmas tenants went out and left bathroom casement window wide open in 1st floor flat. Same cavalier attitude as you describe.

              Chance burglar shinned up drainpipe and damaged window and lock on entry - left by front door with valuables. Tenant then expected me from 100 miles away to repair window + lock at my expense on Christmas Day! NOT

              Tenant ended tenancy and I claimed whole lot off deposit - no problem.



              Freedom at the point of zero............

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