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    boiler replacement

    hi guys
    my boiler has packed up and was insured with british gas
    they have given me a quote for a replacing it £3,183.82

    Quotation Details: New Boiler Replacement Boiler:
    Boiler: British/Scottish Gas Worcester Greenstar 24i High
    Efficiency
    (x 1) £645.73

    Standard Boiler Replacement:
    Horizontal flue terminal (x 1) £194.29
    Combi for Combi Boiler Replacement Installation (x 1) £736.30
    Connect Boiler Electrics and Test (x 1) £158.62
    Worc 28i Jnr/28SI MKII Filling Loop (x 1) £14.51

    Customisation & Compliance:
    Install mini pressure expansion vessel (x 1) £72.49
    Condensate waste to external soil pipe (x 1) £30.49
    External condensate connection (x 1) £56.62
    Install copper gas pipe work (22mm x 3mtr length) (x 4) £233.32
    Minor building work (x 1) £82.70
    Supply and fit electric point (fused spur) (x 1) £57.53
    Waste collection and disposal (in accordance with Health &
    Safety regulations) (x 1) £41.12


    System Reliability:
    2 years complimentary Homecare 200 (x 1) £0.00
    System water treatment and powerflush (x 1) £320.78
    £320.78
    System Performance:
    Wireless room thermostat (x 1) £137.88
    Electronic boiler control (x 1) £101.60
    White angled manual & thermostatic radiator valves (x 8) £299.84
    £539.32
    TOTAL GROSS PRICE (inc. VAT) £3,183.82
    NET CONTRACT PRICE (inc. VAT) £3,183.82

    Any new combination boiler, all being condensing boilers, a 22mm gas pipe is
    needed which I have quoted to run from your meter, up the external front wall,
    across the loft and down the rear wall, along to the new boiler location and in
    to the wall at that point. cost of this is Install copper gas pipe work (22mm x 3mtr length) (x 4) £233.32


    is this needed too???

    and independent quote

    This list includes all the use of flux, solder and sundries, prices are from PTS,
    1x Vissmann 100 30kW £1100.00

    1x Vissmann 100 UTD RF (Plug-in) Wireless two channel 7 day Room Thermostat £136.00
    1x Std Horizontal Flue Kit 60/100 £58.90
    7x Supreme 8/10mm Angle Bodied Reversible
    TRV with Fitted Head & Lockshield. £70.00
    Copper Pipe and fittings 100.00
    Plastic Pipe and Fittings 20.00
    Chemical Power Flush 350.00
    Landlord Gas Safety 0.00
    First Year Boiler Service 0.00
    Laborer 400.00
    Total £2234.90(incl VAT)
    All Prices For Material Have VAT incl.


    another quote

    The price of the boiler, flue & clock as follows:
    Ecotec Pro 24 - £785
    For fitting & associated pipework, (which includes flushing the system), and TRV valves to be fitted where necessary - Total £1,350

    If the boiler does require a new gas run that will be £275 inclusive of labour and materials.

    All prices are exclusive of VAT


    which one do u think is reasonable????

    after installing the new one do u think i should have insurance..

    thanks in advance

    #2
    22mm feed legal requirement as most boilers require that to function efficiently. Greenstar is an excellent boiler ( just put one in my own home). TRV valves except on one rad mandatory, have system gas certified at the end (whilst not necessary it focusses the fitter and makes sure that they are gas safe engineers) Ecotec cheap and nasty bit like heatline (no longer built) leave well alone. System flush essential BUT also fit a magnaclean, or similar there are cheaper ones on the market now which are as good, which is an "online" permanent cleaning system which maximises efficiency. (Bit like an oil filter on a car!!) Final check calculations that they BTU output of the boiler is sufficient for the house. Several web sites allow you to input room sizes and then calculate the BTU required for that room then add them all up (site will do that for you!!) then cross check boiler output having added 10 percent. If radiators old consider changing (not difficult) as modern rads are 30 to 40% more efficient. As TRV are being fitted then that 50% of a rad disconnect and you merely pop the new one new one on although brackets will need adjusting (1 hour per rad max).

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      #3
      PS do not bother with insurance on the worcester if well treated it will last happily for years!! However fit the filter (around £90 and 15 minutes to fit!!)

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        #4
        Originally posted by Solent Watcher View Post
        22mm feed legal requirement as most boilers require that to function efficiently. Greenstar is an excellent boiler ( just put one in my own home). TRV valves except on one rad mandatory, have system gas certified at the end (whilst not necessary it focusses the fitter and makes sure that they are gas safe engineers) Ecotec cheap and nasty bit like heatline (no longer built) leave well alone. System flush essential BUT also fit a magnaclean, or similar there are cheaper ones on the market now which are as good, which is an "online" permanent cleaning system which maximises efficiency. (Bit like an oil filter on a car!!) Final check calculations that they BTU output of the boiler is sufficient for the house. Several web sites allow you to input room sizes and then calculate the BTU required for that room then add them all up (site will do that for you!!) then cross check boiler output having added 10 percent. If radiators old consider changing (not difficult) as modern rads are 30 to 40% more efficient. As TRV are being fitted then that 50% of a rad disconnect and you merely pop the new one new one on although brackets will need adjusting (1 hour per rad max).
        The Ecotec 'Pro' is the cheapo one with lots of missing features. The Ecotec 'Plus' has more features and is a better boiler all round because of it. Costs a bit more though but it is better. Vaillant are said by many to be the RR of boilers. I now have 4 (one at home and 3 in my lets) and rate them very highly. Many installers don't like them though because they are very sophisticated in the combustion controls department and baffle those of little brain!

        If you are having a combi boiler then it is very unlikely that the heating output won't be enough because the combi output is based on its HW output which is usually well in excess of the heating requirement, unless the house is huge of course.

        BTW BG use a menu pricing system as you can see above so I would ignore their quote and go for an independent. I saved £1000 on my home installation by using a keen local gas installer particularly as I wanted to move the boiler to a new location which involved a bit of thought which BG obviously couldn't be bothered to do.

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