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    Getting a smart meter removed

    Hi fellow landlords,

    My tenant had a smart meter fitted shortly before leaving, which I was not contacted about and did not consent to. I'm now wanting it removed, and judging by my research this is very difficult.

    I'd like to hear from anyone that has successfully removed theirs, and what they did?

    I should also note that I don't wish for this to turn into a debate about smart meters. At the time of posting this thread smart meters in the UK are not mandatory, and I do not wish to have one - it is quite that simply.

    Many thanks in advance for any useful information.




    #2
    Oh, I wouldn't want one in my home either. (I'm electro-sensitive, and even a mobile phone gives me a headache.)

    I have allowed one or two to be installed in my rentals, as it makes life easier for the utilities to read meters when tenants aren't in. I think you will have a real struggle to get rid of one once it's installed though.

    If I had to move into one of those, I would purchase a new non-smart meter, and employ an electric company employee to install it. Then I would get him to notify his employer of the readings and the serial no. of the new meter.

    I'm guessing this would cost several hundred pounds. Is it worth bothering with for a rental, given that next tenant might allow it to be changed back again?

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      #3
      Just ask the company to turn off the smart functions.

      They will do so if asked leaving a 'dumb' meter.
      (That often happens anyway if you switch provider, the new provider can't access the smart functions).

      Most cpmpanies, not all, will replace it altogether if you insist.
      But supplies of old type meters are running out as manufactures have switched production to smart meters.

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/as...d-smart-meter/

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        #4
        I had one put into a HMO, I didn't really want it and asked the fitter if I could unplug it as I didn't want the tenants to know the cost of the gas and elec. He said yes and I unplugged it.

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          #5
          You've still got a smart meter. The display part is not the main part of the system. You've basically got rid of the least controversial part of the system and left all the bits that are causing concerns.

          As you are not allowed to charge the tenants more than the cost of electricity, I'm not sure why you would want to hide it.

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            #6
            As the bills are in my name and my responsibility they're not really anything to do with the tenants. From that they can work out how much I make (or lose) from the property as they can also find out the water, CT, Tv licence etc. and I'd just rather they didn't know.

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              #7
              The aim of providing the display unit is to encourage people to be aware of their energy usage. Not providing it to the tenant goes against public policy and would also seem to result in them having no incentive to keep your electricity costs down. If they really want to hit you in the pocket by ramping up your costs, they don't need the smart meter display to do that.

              In any case, most of the concerns relate to the information that half hourly readings give to the electricity company, and the possible future introduction of time dependent tariffs, neither of which are affected by removing the display.

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                #8
                The tenants in a HMO have no incentive to keep the bills down anyway as they are included in the rent. In a different property I do have the meter on show but it makes no difference - windows are still left open with the heating on full blast. If the bills get too high I'll have to put the rents up.

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                  #9
                  To the OP - as someone previously said, one solution is to change providers. Most smart meters are "locked" to the supplier that installed them, so they become "dumb" with another supplier.

                  It's not ideal, but might be a workaround if the original supplier won't change the meter back.

                  Additionally, you could get a quote on the cost to change back and then hit the outgoing tenants with a deposit deduction charge for it (assuming the tenancy agreement had a strong enough clause to protect you).

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                    #10
                    Whether or not it is actually legal, that would go against two items of public policy:

                    1) that tenants must have the right to choose their own supplier;

                    2) that smart meters be introduced to encourage energy efficiency.

                    Expect remedial legislation if a test case succeeds.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by security2 View Post
                      To the OP - as someone previously said, one solution is to change providers. Most smart meters are "locked" to the supplier that installed them, so they become "dumb" with another supplier.

                      It's not ideal, but might be a workaround if the original supplier won't change the meter back.
                      You probably don't have to change supplier - Once you tell your current supplier to make it dumb or you will change suppliers they will be round in a flash to change it.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by nukecad View Post
                        You probably don't have to change supplier - Once you tell your current supplier to make it dumb or you will change suppliers they will be round in a flash to change it.
                        Would you trust your supplier to make it dumb?

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