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    More builder's bungles to repair

    Recently the tenant moved out of my first BTL flat here in Reading after a nine year tenancy. It was thick with curry grease which I am gradually removing. On the surface, the bathroom looked in good shape. However I noticed the tiles on the plywood(!) bath panel were coming loose, so stripped these off today. Also, unfortunately the pipe boxing was also plywood, and the tiles similarly loose.

    I was really shocked to see the plumbing below though. On the left is the side of a back to the wall wc pan. Can you see the angle of the 1.25" pipe where it goes into the pan connector? No, it was not watertight for either basin water or wc water.
    WTF!
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    #2
    Wow, thats lazy!

    Easy enough to fix, but seriously lazy builder/DIY'er.

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      #3
      Thanks Sam. Worse still there are five further floors of flats above mine built by the same firm. I think I know why the bathroom ceiling is always damp now.

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        #4
        I know this isn't really your query, thought I would mention, back in the early 90s I moved into a shared house, the kitchen was thick with grease. I tried all the regular cleaners on it and finally washing powder which was the only thing that stripped it.

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          #5
          Thanks Shearne.

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            #6
            Crikey, what a palaver this has been, and still not resolved now. I disconnected the three(!) pan connectors that were joined together behind the wc to get to this continental toilet, and replaced with a single flexi pan connector. Then of course I have the problem of how to join the 1.25" pipe to the horizontal soil stub. I bought one of these things from Amazon:

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            The instructions surprisingly are very poor. The diagram says you need to cut a circular hole of 63mm but with flat sides 50mm apart.

            That's rather difficult when drilling into a circular soil pipe! I bought a spare piece to practice on today, and found I could just get the thing in a circular 57mm hole.

            However, the item I received has about a 3" threaded section, so sticks up too high in the boxing to allow any fall on the basin pipe.

            I just ordered one of these things from Ebay which I hope may do the trick:

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              #7
              Husbands words!- " you can get pan connectors with waste bosses built in and the clamp on boss is what is commonly used."

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                #8
                Thanks Moy. Yeah I know you can get a pan connector with the waste boss built in. Just that they are all at the pan end. Hence the abortion of an arrangement in my post #1 picture.

                The white clamp on boss is what I have now ordered.

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                  #9
                  What my husband has done before now is use his blowtorch to gently heat the waste pipe and bend it slightly and hold until it cools. It takes a bit of practice he says but new pipe is cheap to practice on!
                  he says that angle could be achieved in your pic using the existing pan connectors and just used new cheap pipe.
                  Not suitable for on show work though because the pipe gets scorched a bit although it's hardly noticeable on black pipe. I remember him doing it on our bathroom refit in 2001. No issues thus far.

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                    #10
                    Thanks Moy. Those pan connectors went in the bin a fortnight ago. I can't tell you how disgusting they were. There were so many fitted together that they sagged and leaked.

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                      #11
                      Finished at last. You can see that to get a suitable fall for the basin waste pipe, I have had to drill holes in the framing of my boxing. What a palaver!

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                        #12
                        You can see that white clip on boss here:

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                          #13
                          Not sure about that corrugated/flexible thing.

                          Looks like a future problem in the making?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by nukecad View Post
                            Not sure about that corrugated/flexible thing.

                            Looks like a future problem in the making?
                            I know what you mean. I did not trust them when they first appeared. However, I have never had one leak or get blocked, touch wood. They are pretty vital with these back to the wall wc's in my view. If you use a conventional pan connector, you can never be 100% sure they are properly sealed to the stub. With flexi's, you can make sure the connections are secure before you push the pan into place.

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                              #15
                              I assume that there is sleeving inside and the corrugations are support.

                              Still?

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