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    Energy Reports on HMOs as from October?

    I have my concern over the proposed energy reports being pushed into the HMO sector. Does anyone know more, if these will be required for HMO properties?
    My opinions are exactly what you would expect, my own!

    #2
    Originally posted by multipropertyguy View Post
    I have my concern over the proposed energy reports being pushed into the HMO sector. Does anyone know more, if these will be required for HMO properties?
    Forgive my ignorance but what is HMO

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      #3
      Originally posted by ste.ve View Post
      Forgive my ignorance but what is HMO
      House in
      Multiple
      Occupation.
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        #4
        If you mean several students in a normal house - yes
        If you mean nursing home - no... at least not unless/until the come under commercial assessments

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          #5
          An HMO has a specific statutory definition. A nursing home is entirely different.
          They're both in TCPA Use Class C2 EXCEPT that a HMO is in Class C2 if there are six or fewer residents forming one household.
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            #6
            Originally posted by jeffrey View Post
            An HMO has a specific statutory definition. A nursing home is entirely different.
            They're both in TCPA Use Class C2 EXCEPT that a HMO is in Class C2 if there are six or fewer residents forming one household.
            As I understand it "Halls of Residence" type of property won't require...Yet.
            Normal type of house with many students will require as from Oct.
            However the rules at present are very confusing and as all this is coming on quickly after establishing HIPs and the implementing of non-domestic (3 phases) and new-build, all to be implemented on or before Oct 08 I fore see one almighty mess coming on that will make the furore over HIPs look like a play-school tiff! IMHO

            Steve

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              #7
              A bit more info that I've just found regarding HMO. Aparently if the property has several individual rooms rented to students ie the students might share the kitchen but they can "lock up" their own room then an EPC must be done on each "residence" with a seperate EPC for the shared areas and facilities such as the heating system. Please note I found this on another forum and cannot therefore swear to the accuracy of the information.

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                #8
                OMG -does anyone know yet if this last statement is true ? I may be being stupid but if the rent payable includes all bills why on earth would a tenant be interested in seeing an EPC ?Am I being told that a 5 bedroom HMO would need 6 EPCs ???
                Must admit I don't know much about EPCs so can someone please enlighten me ?
                Many thanks
                Alidee
                p.s the property I'm thinking about is an HMO with professionals not students.

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                  #9
                  Think I found the answer - I hope !!

                  http://www.leeds.gov.uk/files/Intern...dd31d2b4fd.pdf

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                    #10
                    I've found contradicting information on this one, but according to the Communities and Local Government literature an EPC is not required for an HMO where tenants rent a room in a house and share a kitchen/bathroom - or thats how I understand it anyway!!!

                    http://www.communities.gov.uk/docume...pdf/866773.pdf

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by nvng View Post
                      I've found contradicting information on this one, but according to the Communities and Local Government literature an EPC is not required for an HMO where tenants rent a room in a house and share a kitchen/bathroom - or thats how I understand it anyway!!!

                      http://www.communities.gov.uk/docume...pdf/866773.pdf

                      Better late than never! Thanks for that! (Jus the one year after the original question...)
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