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    Garage rental

    About 18 months ago I bought a flat which had a garage down the road with a load of other garages so very separate from the flat. I let the flat and then let the garage to another person. The person paid the rent on the garage for about 6 months but then in February just stopped paying. I have tried to phone him many times but his number is unobtainable. I have a tenancy agreement for the garage with his name and phone number on but I didn't get his address- I know very stupid- what was I thinking?)
    I have a key to the garage but he has added a bolt into the floor that has a padlock on it which I don't have a key for.

    I have visited the garage several times and put two letters under the door asking him to ring me but he hasn't. Am I within my rights to just get a locksmith and open up the garage? If his car is still in there perhaps DVLA would give me his address? I just hope I don't find him dead in his car. The other thing I have been thinking is what if he died of corona virus and his wife doesn't know where the garage is and she's just waiting for me to contact her to retrieve the car. Perhaps an over enthusiastic imagination here!

    If I do open up the garage and the car is in there is there anyway I can find his address or can I just get the car towed out?

    Thanks for your help!

    #2
    What does tenancy agreement for garage say about giving notice or ending tenancy? Follow that.
    I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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      #3
      Just open it up first, might be some clues inside. I take it you've googled his number ?
      (Cordless angle grinder or boltcroppers will be cheaper than locksmith)

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        #4
        Is garage on the flat deeds? If so was it excluded from AST contract?
        I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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          #5
          Originally posted by Section20z View Post
          Just open it up first, might be some clues inside. I take it you've googled his number ?
          (Cordless angle grinder or boltcroppers will be cheaper than locksmith)
          what would you expect to find if you googled his number? nothing comes up.

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            #6
            Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
            Is garage on the flat deeds? If so was it excluded from AST contract?
            it is on the deeds but not in the tenancy agrement. The tenant doesn't even know the garage exists

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              #7
              Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
              What does tenancy agreement for garage say about giving notice or ending tenancy? Follow that.
              1 months notice. But I can't get hold of him to give him one months notice. Perhaps I just ought to put it under the garage door and wait another month.

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                #8
                If I gain access and there's a car in there can I just tow it out?

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                  #9
                  How does tenancy state notice must be served? But serve under garage door TODAY with a witness.

                  As garage not excluded from tenancy the flat tenants (who might be viewing....) will be entitled to garage. Next time, exclude it!

                  What training have you done on landlord/tenant law? When I started I thought I knew what I was doing, big expensive painful mistake. Ah the hubris, ah the foolishness! (In my case only)
                  I am legally unqualified: If you need to rely on advice check it with a suitable authority - eg a solicitor specialising in landlord/tenant law...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MOONRIVER View Post

                    what would you expect to find if you googled his number? nothing comes up.
                    Sometimes you get a clue to job or address if they've posted adverts etc. If there's a car in there (unlikely) you can get keepers address from DVLA but I'd be wary of towing it anywhere till you are sure who owns it (if it's valuable) .
                    I had it happen with a Mercedes and an Alfa in one double garage but I did a lot of tracing before I got rid of them.
                    He may be in Parkhurst doing 3 years for GBH.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
                      How does tenancy state notice must be served? But serve under garage door TODAY with a witness.

                      As garage not excluded from tenancy the flat tenants (who might be viewing....) will be entitled to garage. Next time, exclude it!

                      What training have you done on landlord/tenant law? When I started I thought I knew what I was doing, big expensive painful mistake. Ah the hubris, ah the foolishness! (In my case only)
                      Strewth that was unlucky. Your tenants downloaded deeds from land registry ? Found out you also owned a garage some way down the road ? Decided they were going to claim the rights to it ?
                      Hope they're not still tenants.. ..

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                        #12
                        I had a similar situation a couple of years ago with a parking space.

                        Originally posted by Section20z View Post
                        If there's a car in there (unlikely) you can get keepers address from DVLA.
                        I would not expect this to be the case. Do you have experience of this having happened? DVLA's position seems clear.

                        https://assets.publishing.service.go...-registers.pdf

                        Originally posted by MOONRIVER
                        If I gain access and there's a car in there can I just tow it out?
                        From memory I think the legal position is that you can do that as long as you give suitable warning first. It wasn't really practical in my case due to limited access.

                        Do not expect any assistance from 'the authorities'. There will not be any.

                        I can also confirm from personal experience that it is not possible to trace a car from the registration unless you have got log book or VIN.
                        There is a fine line between irony and stupidity. If I say something absurd please assume that I am being facetious.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by theartfullodger View Post
                          How does tenancy state notice must be served? But serve under garage door TODAY with a witness.

                          As garage not excluded from tenancy the flat tenants (who might be viewing....) will be entitled to garage. Next time, exclude it!

                          What training have you done on landlord/tenant law? When I started I thought I knew what I was doing, big expensive painful mistake. Ah the hubris, ah the foolishness! (In my case only)
                          the tenancy agreement says there are no garages or out houses included in tenancy. Surely this is enough

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Section20z View Post

                            Sometimes you get a clue to job or address if they've posted adverts etc. If there's a car in there (unlikely) you can get keepers address from DVLA but I'd be wary of towing it anywhere till you are sure who owns it (if it's valuable) .
                            I had it happen with a Mercedes and an Alfa in one double garage but I did a lot of tracing before I got rid of them.
                            He may be in Parkhurst doing 3 years for GBH.
                            I don't intend getting rid of the car. Just tow it onto the road a leave it there. I suppose that won't be easy if the hand brake is on and in gear. Oh dear I can see this getting expensive.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Section20z View Post

                              Strewth that was unlucky. Your tenants downloaded deeds from land registry ? Found out you also owned a garage some way down the road ? Decided they were going to claim the rights to it ?
                              Hope they're not still tenants.. ..
                              She is still a tenant and I know she wouldn't do any such thing.

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